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	<title>Comments on: Tanking Etiquette, Taunting off of Other Tanks</title>
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		<title>By: Gothyelk</title>
		<link>http://www.orlyfactor.com/tanking-etiquette-taunting-off-of-other-tanks/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Gothyelk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I was going to make a post about this very thing. It happens from time to time to me and I usually do not say anything -  thinking it was a mistake or a very tardy taunt on a loose mob that I already have. But the other day in TK a tank would not stop taunting off me - I&#039;d had enough and asked her to stop over vent. People laughed and the RL told her to please stop.

It is an insult, but we certainly don&#039;t need taunts on cooldown for when the could really be used to save a life.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gothyelk&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://stoicguardian.blogspot.com/2008/11/failing-of-guild-merger.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Failing of a Guild Merger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I was going to make a post about this very thing. It happens from time to time to me and I usually do not say anything &#8211;  thinking it was a mistake or a very tardy taunt on a loose mob that I already have. But the other day in TK a tank would not stop taunting off me &#8211; I&#8217;d had enough and asked her to stop over vent. People laughed and the RL told her to please stop.</p>
<p>It is an insult, but we certainly don&#8217;t need taunts on cooldown for when the could really be used to save a life.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Gothyelk&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://stoicguardian.blogspot.com/2008/11/failing-of-guild-merger.html" rel="nofollow">The Failing of a Guild Merger</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Kudos</title>
		<link>http://www.orlyfactor.com/tanking-etiquette-taunting-off-of-other-tanks/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Kudos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how things happen... did a quick Gruul&#039;s and Mag run after reading this, and sure enough, another tank kept taunting off me for the first couple pulls.

Then he says in vent that he&#039;s sorry, he&#039;d re-arranged his bars a bit and wasn&#039;t quite used to it yet.

He still taunted off me a couple more times after, but always said a quick sorry. We all yanked his chain about it during the runs and he was quick to laugh with us about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how things happen&#8230; did a quick Gruul&#8217;s and Mag run after reading this, and sure enough, another tank kept taunting off me for the first couple pulls.</p>
<p>Then he says in vent that he&#8217;s sorry, he&#8217;d re-arranged his bars a bit and wasn&#8217;t quite used to it yet.</p>
<p>He still taunted off me a couple more times after, but always said a quick sorry. We all yanked his chain about it during the runs and he was quick to laugh with us about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Durnic</title>
		<link>http://www.orlyfactor.com/tanking-etiquette-taunting-off-of-other-tanks/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Durnic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of your guys&#039; points are very good, thanks for bringing them up.  Just to clear up a point, though, I&#039;d like to point out I said &quot;two reasons I can think of off of the top of my head&quot; but &quot;two reasons ever&quot;.  :)

With the badge gear so easy to get these days, and my guild getting heavily into the raiding game only after it was made available, I haven&#039;t really run into a problem where I&#039;m bringing an OT that is heavily under-geared or really under-geared at all.  Under-skilled, yes but under-geared, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of your guys&#8217; points are very good, thanks for bringing them up.  Just to clear up a point, though, I&#8217;d like to point out I said &#8220;two reasons I can think of off of the top of my head&#8221; but &#8220;two reasons ever&#8221;.  <img src='http://www.orlyfactor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>With the badge gear so easy to get these days, and my guild getting heavily into the raiding game only after it was made available, I haven&#8217;t really run into a problem where I&#8217;m bringing an OT that is heavily under-geared or really under-geared at all.  Under-skilled, yes but under-geared, no.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to respectfully disagree with this &quot;only 2 reasons&quot; notion...

I agree with the previous poster&#039;s points 3 and 4.. particularly in a situation with a dedicated MT and a hybrid OT that is not necessarily in an ideal spec/gear set to make them as efficient at avoiding/mitigating damage.  It&#039;s not about trusting or not trusting them to tank a mob - it&#039;s about doing what&#039;s best for the group/raid which in some cases means transferring incoming damage to a tank that is better geared and easier to heal.

A good tanking team&#039;s job is to control a fight once CC is sorted out and allow the rest of the raid to do their job efficiently, including the healing team.  If an OT has a big ego about tanking a specific mob even though another tank is available and can do it at less healing cost (mana / downtime) to the raid they are acting selfishly, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to respectfully disagree with this &#8220;only 2 reasons&#8221; notion&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with the previous poster&#8217;s points 3 and 4.. particularly in a situation with a dedicated MT and a hybrid OT that is not necessarily in an ideal spec/gear set to make them as efficient at avoiding/mitigating damage.  It&#8217;s not about trusting or not trusting them to tank a mob &#8211; it&#8217;s about doing what&#8217;s best for the group/raid which in some cases means transferring incoming damage to a tank that is better geared and easier to heal.</p>
<p>A good tanking team&#8217;s job is to control a fight once CC is sorted out and allow the rest of the raid to do their job efficiently, including the healing team.  If an OT has a big ego about tanking a specific mob even though another tank is available and can do it at less healing cost (mana / downtime) to the raid they are acting selfishly, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Talldar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3.) To make healing easier. Mmmh how about basic raiding and mob groups (before 3.0.2, at least)? We&#039;d have the MT pick up 2 targets and the OT pick up 2 targets, as my first killtarget would go down I&#039;d pick up one of the mobs on the OT. For progression, that is, as long as the OT is at a level where he could easily die. It&#039;s a slap in the face if you do it unplanned, but it&#039;s more a slap to the face to your OT if he goes down and chaos is all over the place :)

4.) To speed up trash. Also we tried to make pulling faster that way lately, having my OT pick off the last mob of me so I would charge into the next group already, where he would taunt off one or two guys when they&#039;d finished up the former pack. But that&#039;s easymode-raiding at the time, so probably will not

5.) To slap the other tank in the face. If you know the guy it can be fun to do the taunt-contest-game every once in a while!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Talldar&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://warriortanking.com/raiding/scourging-an-zulaman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scourging fun and musical disabilities in Zul’Aman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.) To make healing easier. Mmmh how about basic raiding and mob groups (before 3.0.2, at least)? We&#8217;d have the MT pick up 2 targets and the OT pick up 2 targets, as my first killtarget would go down I&#8217;d pick up one of the mobs on the OT. For progression, that is, as long as the OT is at a level where he could easily die. It&#8217;s a slap in the face if you do it unplanned, but it&#8217;s more a slap to the face to your OT if he goes down and chaos is all over the place <img src='http://www.orlyfactor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>4.) To speed up trash. Also we tried to make pulling faster that way lately, having my OT pick off the last mob of me so I would charge into the next group already, where he would taunt off one or two guys when they&#8217;d finished up the former pack. But that&#8217;s easymode-raiding at the time, so probably will not</p>
<p>5.) To slap the other tank in the face. If you know the guy it can be fun to do the taunt-contest-game every once in a while!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Talldar&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://warriortanking.com/raiding/scourging-an-zulaman/" rel="nofollow">Scourging fun and musical disabilities in Zul’Aman</a></em></abbr></p>
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